As I’ve pointed out in previous posts, I’ve been attending Snow Shoot (the media and OEM gathering of new models for ride evaluations and photo/video sessions) for the better part of 30-years. There’s lots of things to glean from a gathering like this including the obvious such as riding the newest models, meeting new OEM team members, and learning about new technology. However beyond all this, Snow Shoot serves as the ultimate barometer for the industry and more specifically as a measuring stick for each of the brands within that window of time. Who’s got the momentum, who has the best new buggy, who has the sled everyone wants to ride, and who is consistently the last one picked for dodge ball.
The way Snow Shoot works is each media outlet reserves a collection of sleds from all the OEMs for a morning session and an afternoon session. From there a scramble of preparation, forgotten helmets, swapping of sleds, and discussions transpire before each of the groups depart the staging area. Tagging along with most groups are one or two OEM representatives, often there to answer questions and to “shepherd the herd” in case there’s trouble. Joining one of these groups is how I often attain my ride evaluations. Not only do I get to ride the newest Arctic Cat snowmobiles, but on occasion during the frequent swapping of sleds, you can spend some time on the other brands as well. It’s during these “swaps”… away from the eyes of the staging area, when you find out what sleds the editors really want to ride. This winter, the Catalyst was clearly the most popular sled…and for good reason.
In the coming days I’ll be posting insights and learnings regarding the 2025 Arctic Cat lineup from my trip to West Yellowstone. I had some great discussions with Cat engineers while I was there, and I got some great feedback on the new 858 from members of the Black Cat team and press in attendance. For now, I wanted to share some photos and initial thoughts from the trip…enjoy.
I’m looking forward to the report. It’s good to see some familiar faces, I just hope Matt B knows that the rider who hit a tree last year year with the Riot 9000 WASN’T ME. 😉
I had the opportunity to test out the new 858 in Munising last Saturday – both the ZR 137 and the Riot. Came away impressed with those sleds on several levels. Came away more impressed with how friendly and helpful the folks representing Cat were.
Great article and photos. Looking foward to the articles to come. It is too bad (for myself included) how terrible the winter was in the upper midwest. Brand new 600 Catalyst and only 1.6 miles. Trails never opened once in Minocqua or Eagle River. On the positive side, it will be “new” next year too.
Test rode a new catalyst walked away unimpressed. Still have painted plastic where pull cord goes so paint can come off. New gauge is great but we found it tough to look at during trail riding. It was spot on though for location of where we were. The 858 isn’t a knock your socks off but is definitely better than the 600 is. Lots of midrange grunt. Hopefully it helps them in market share. Being the last few winters haven’t been so great be interesting to see how long Textron holds onto Cat. Hopefully sales stay up for them to keep going.
Truly interested in those Sno pro shocks. I don’t understand why AC has been so quiet about them? Will they be available for those of us wanting to upgrade from IFP shocks?
Cat really needs to put more money back into supporting racing.
25 entries in champ class alone in this past weekends ice oval racing just 2 hours north of TRF and only one was a cat. A red white and blue one at that with zero cat sponsorship
Formula 3 class, zero entries when there are two current F3 prepped sleds sitting in the race shop.
SAD
OH, TO BE OUT WEST STAYING AT EINO’S COOKING STEAKS PLAYING DICE GAMES WITH ALL THE MAGAZINE REPS THAT WOULD HANG OUT THERE AT NIGHT THOSE WERE THE DAYS
Haven’t drove anyone else’s 850. I could have drove one last year. But the guys rental Polaris’s blew up or broke down 🙄‼️ We test drove at Munising. A little unimpressive. BUT , it was warm & the snow was loose. Talking to the engineer. They still don’t have all the Low Elevation calibrations done . Do to, no or shit snow . He spent the week prior testing on a lake with a couple inches of snow on it . Before coming there.
Haven’t drove anyone else’s 850. I could have drove one last year. But the guys rental Polaris’s blew up or broke down 🙄‼️ We test drove at Munising. A little unimpressive. BUT , it was warm & the snow was loose. Talking to the engineer. They still don’t have all the Low Elevation calibrations done . Do to, no or shit snow . He spent the week prior testing on a lake with a couple inches of snow on it . Before coming there.
Oops, on the double ‼️ I thought Al Shimpa was fully retired . Haven’t seen him in the pits at Haydays in years. Hopefully he’s enjoying his semi retirement in Detroit Lakes.
Looks like you had a great trip Pat, ill be eager to read more about all the goodness that lies ahead for us Cat faithful.
As someone who ordered a M858, I can’t wait to hear more details about your trip. What an incredibly exciting time to be a Cat loyalist!
I’m looking forward to the report. It’s good to see some familiar faces, I just hope Matt B knows that the rider who hit a tree last year year with the Riot 9000 WASN’T ME. 😉
Off topic but the font you are using for all the text in the article is really nice and looks great on desktop and iPhone.
On topic… new cars are sweet and so is that G8 gauge!
Update: specifically the font under each photo.
Look forward to hearing the”insider” details.
I had the opportunity to test out the new 858 in Munising last Saturday – both the ZR 137 and the Riot. Came away impressed with those sleds on several levels. Came away more impressed with how friendly and helpful the folks representing Cat were.
Great article and photos. Looking foward to the articles to come. It is too bad (for myself included) how terrible the winter was in the upper midwest. Brand new 600 Catalyst and only 1.6 miles. Trails never opened once in Minocqua or Eagle River. On the positive side, it will be “new” next year too.
Test rode a new catalyst walked away unimpressed. Still have painted plastic where pull cord goes so paint can come off. New gauge is great but we found it tough to look at during trail riding. It was spot on though for location of where we were. The 858 isn’t a knock your socks off but is definitely better than the 600 is. Lots of midrange grunt. Hopefully it helps them in market share. Being the last few winters haven’t been so great be interesting to see how long Textron holds onto Cat. Hopefully sales stay up for them to keep going.
So how many times you pull rope starting an electric start sled? Do you see it with the rope retracted? Troll?
Truly interested in those Sno pro shocks. I don’t understand why AC has been so quiet about them? Will they be available for those of us wanting to upgrade from IFP shocks?
Brian Nelson’s gear bag, that couldn’t be still from his Deere days could it?
I believe it is…
Would love someone to say something about the shocks.. A display unit, cut aways, tech info, lots of folks asking but AC has been totally silent
Cat really needs to put more money back into supporting racing.
25 entries in champ class alone in this past weekends ice oval racing just 2 hours north of TRF and only one was a cat. A red white and blue one at that with zero cat sponsorship
Formula 3 class, zero entries when there are two current F3 prepped sleds sitting in the race shop.
SAD
great to see! thanks Pat!
That a boy Jim R, let him have it 😖🤛🏼
OH, TO BE OUT WEST STAYING AT EINO’S COOKING STEAKS PLAYING DICE GAMES WITH ALL THE MAGAZINE REPS THAT WOULD HANG OUT THERE AT NIGHT THOSE WERE THE DAYS
Just curious for anyone who has had a ride on the 858, how does it feel compared to the competitions 850s?
Haven’t drove anyone else’s 850. I could have drove one last year. But the guys rental Polaris’s blew up or broke down 🙄‼️ We test drove at Munising. A little unimpressive. BUT , it was warm & the snow was loose. Talking to the engineer. They still don’t have all the Low Elevation calibrations done . Do to, no or shit snow . He spent the week prior testing on a lake with a couple inches of snow on it . Before coming there.
Haven’t drove anyone else’s 850. I could have drove one last year. But the guys rental Polaris’s blew up or broke down 🙄‼️ We test drove at Munising. A little unimpressive. BUT , it was warm & the snow was loose. Talking to the engineer. They still don’t have all the Low Elevation calibrations done . Do to, no or shit snow . He spent the week prior testing on a lake with a couple inches of snow on it . Before coming there.
Oops, on the double ‼️ I thought Al Shimpa was fully retired . Haven’t seen him in the pits at Haydays in years. Hopefully he’s enjoying his semi retirement in Detroit Lakes.
Is the AC5S rebuildable? almost doesn’t look like it by the end cap of shock
Yes it is rebuildable.
THANKS! Plan on ordering a set for my M600