I gathered some of the great video content created by the snowmobile media discussing the all-new CATALYST platform, 858 Engine, Garmin G8 Gauge and more. Seek out and support these channels. I thought you’d enjoy seeing them in one place! Have a great weekend! – Kale
Can’t wait to see real world testing on this engine, sure sounds like a performer. Kale, will you be doing any factory updates when the Catalyst sleds hit the assembly line?
Was interesting to hear that the 858 was the intended engine in the catalyst, but supply chain issues delayed the engine so they decided to switch gears and make the 600 fit into it in order to put catalyst out for my24.
The fact that they modified the current 600 to fit the Catalyst chassis leads me to believe there will be a 658 motor coming for 2026 if the 858 is a big hit.
858 uses the same bore as the 800:
The new bottom end (75.6 mm stroke), combined with the current 600 bore (73.8) would give them a 646 (technically 646.78)
Just for fun:
74.3 would give 656 cc
74.44 mm bore would be 658 cc
74.9 mm bore is 666 cc
F7 was 698 cc, if they want to bring it back they could use:
76.66mm bore 697.88 cc
76.76 mm bore 699.7 cc
76.78 mm bore 700.07 cc
Interesting review of the 2024 600 Catalyst by Supertrax magazine.
Seems like they are slightly walking back their earlier ultra-exuberant observations of the new chassis, now saying it might be as good as the Polaris Matryx chassis (vs the 2nd coming of the snowmobile), and calling the rear skid “long in the tooth” and inferior to Ski Doo’s rMotion skid.
Will be interesting to see more in-depth side-by-side comparos as the season progresses.
Other than the fact that he holds the Matryx platform in high regards, and the Matryx platform is Polaris.
I think the consensus in the industry is that the Ski Doo rMotion rear suspension is the best overall between the “Big 3”.
Once upon a time (1990’s), Mark and Luke Lester thought that Cat was the best sled out there.
Thanks, Kale – all great info. I’ve added these to my Catalyst playlist on YouTube.
Any chance they would do a late release with a few of these? Would love to have one Feb or so?
Can’t wait to see real world testing on this engine, sure sounds like a performer. Kale, will you be doing any factory updates when the Catalyst sleds hit the assembly line?
Tentative production is to start middle of October. Ill definitely share some photos when sleds hit production line.
Awesome!
Is Alicia Martin still in R & D ???
Was interesting to hear that the 858 was the intended engine in the catalyst, but supply chain issues delayed the engine so they decided to switch gears and make the 600 fit into it in order to put catalyst out for my24.
The fact that they modified the current 600 to fit the Catalyst chassis leads me to believe there will be a 658 motor coming for 2026 if the 858 is a big hit.
better yet just skip to 700 imo
I’m thinking more like a 700 too. Maybe a 686 or 696 to keep the numbers fun.
858 uses the same bore as the 800:
The new bottom end (75.6 mm stroke), combined with the current 600 bore (73.8) would give them a 646 (technically 646.78)
Just for fun:
74.3 would give 656 cc
74.44 mm bore would be 658 cc
74.9 mm bore is 666 cc
F7 was 698 cc, if they want to bring it back they could use:
76.66mm bore 697.88 cc
76.76 mm bore 699.7 cc
76.78 mm bore 700.07 cc
I keep saying they should skip the 650 and go 700.
I predict some 750 big bore kits being rereleased again with updates this winter
is the 858 s DSI (slot in the pistons or a semi direct engine?
Interesting review of the 2024 600 Catalyst by Supertrax magazine.
Seems like they are slightly walking back their earlier ultra-exuberant observations of the new chassis, now saying it might be as good as the Polaris Matryx chassis (vs the 2nd coming of the snowmobile), and calling the rear skid “long in the tooth” and inferior to Ski Doo’s rMotion skid.
Will be interesting to see more in-depth side-by-side comparos as the season progresses.
Not surprising, seeing that Mark Lester wrote the article. He has never been the biggest Cat fan. Very much a Ski-Doo guy.
Other than the fact that he holds the Matryx platform in high regards, and the Matryx platform is Polaris.
I think the consensus in the industry is that the Ski Doo rMotion rear suspension is the best overall between the “Big 3”.
Once upon a time (1990’s), Mark and Luke Lester thought that Cat was the best sled out there.